[22:14] <preacherswife> hello nice people!
[22:14] <crrj> hello preacherswife
[22:14] <preacherswife> is it hard to install a dvd burner?
[22:15] <sin> not really, preacherswife.
[22:15] <sin> buy one, follow the instructions.
[22:15] <preacherswife> could a beginner per say install one?
[22:15] <preacherswife> like me?
[22:15] <preacherswife> not really a beginner...
[22:15] <DSenette-TT> as long as you have an empty ide slot you'll be fine preacherswife
[22:15] <sin> pretty much anyone can do it, preacherswife
[22:15] <DSenette-TT> they are rellatively plug and play...you'll need to install dvd reading/writing software
[22:16] <DSenette-TT> but that should come with the drive
[22:16] <preacherswife> i am a beginner in the sense of installing internal thingys
[22:16] <sin> you can do it
[22:16] <preacherswife> the software wouldn't bother me
[22:16] <sin> we have faith
[22:16] <preacherswife> on the front of my tower, i have a slot for a dvd burner
[22:17] <sin> then you should be fine, preacherswife
[22:17] <preacherswife> but i wouldn't know what all the wires would go to inside. see what i'm saying?
[22:17] <mike_needs_help> middle
[22:17] <DSenette-TT> there are two (three max) cables to connect with a dvd drive
[22:17] <sin> it will tell you in the instructions, preacherswife
[22:17] <preacherswife> you just push out the slot so to speak, and go from there?
[22:17] <DSenette-TT> and all 3 look different and have only one way that they can go in
[22:17] <preacherswife> i do LOVE a good challenge
[22:18] <sin> it will be a worthwhile effort, preacherswife
[22:18] <preacherswife> will i have to remove my cdrw drive?
[22:18] <sin> if you have another slot on your box, then no
[22:19] <sin> if you only have one slot, then yes
[22:19] <sin> but if its a dvd/rw drive, then you'll be ok, because you can still use it to burn cd's
[22:19] <preacherswife> the man who built our system was going to do it for us...but as i said, i would love to give it a go too
[22:19] <sin> you can do it preacherswife, youre not as inept with computers as you think
[22:20] <sin> youll surprise yourself at what you can do
[22:20] <preacherswife> he mentioned something about making one the cdrw a slave
[22:20] <preacherswife> thanks for the vote of confidence!
[22:20] <sin> thats a matter of plugging it into a different place, preacherswife
[22:20] <preacherswife> will both work when i install the dvd burner?
[22:21] <preacherswife> or will only work at this time?
[22:21] <sin> yes
[22:21] <sin> as long as you have two slots on your box
[22:21] <preacherswife> so i can continue to use the cdrw drive for say burning songs?
[22:21] <preacherswife> and use the dvd burner for say digital pics?
[22:21] <sin> yup
[22:21] <sin> in fact, the dvd burner should be able to do both
[22:22] <preacherswife> i am liking this already
[22:22] <sin> depending on what kind you get
[22:22] <preacherswife> heard of mad dog?
[22:22] <sin> just read the packaging
[22:22] <sin> maddog = alcohol. other than that, no.
[22:22] <sin> maddog also = giving someone a dirty look (slang)
[22:22] <preacherswife> the guy who built our system, said this particular brand and what all it offers, would be just fine for our computer
[22:23] <sin> if you trust him, then go for it
[22:23] <preacherswife> i currently have xp and am running 2.4 gigs
[22:23] <sin> you can always look it up online and read first
[22:23] <preacherswife> surely, i trust him...he does work for churches, schools, businesses, etc.
[22:23] <preacherswife> it is his home business. : )
[22:23] <sin> thats good
[22:23] <sin> that means if you get in a bind, you can always call him
[22:24] <preacherswife> is there anything else i should know?
[22:24] <preacherswife> we are planning to buy it tomorrow after church
[22:24] <preacherswife> tax-free day you know. : )
[22:24] <DSenette-TT> preacherswife maybe you should buy it..and invite the computer guy over to watch
[22:24] <DSenette-TT> that way you can do it yourself
[22:24] <DSenette-TT> but still be confident
[22:24] <preacherswife> good idea
[22:24] <DSenette-TT> that way if you get stuck he'll already be there
[22:24] <preacherswife> yeah
[22:24] <DSenette-TT> then you could have a BBQ after
[22:25] <preacherswife> not a bad idea
[22:25] <sin> lol DSenette-TT
[22:25] <preacherswife> too hot here for that
[22:25] <sin> funny, but a good idea
[22:25] <preacherswife> we could save on charcoal and cook it using the sun
[22:25] <sin> preacherswife, georgia?
[22:25] <preacherswife> : )
[22:25] <preacherswife> how did you know that?
[22:26] <DSenette-TT> hhehe yup...georgia
[22:27] <preacherswife> this deal also comes with roxio 7...is that good?
[22:27] <DSenette-TT> roxio is good enough for your needs
[22:28] <preacherswife> nero is better though?
[22:29] <preacherswife> roxio would be okay for putting digital pics on a dvd right?
[22:30] <preacherswife> and the clarity and sound would be very, very good, right?
[22:30] <preacherswife> 'cause the other night, i burned my first svcd and the picture quality was just not that clear
[22:31] <sin> it depends on the settings you use, preacherswife
[22:31] <preacherswife> but with a dvd burner, ALL things would be excellent right?
[22:31] <preacherswife> is a dvd burner for my usage going to be worth the money?
[22:31] <preacherswife> i am wanting it for pics primarily
[22:31] <sin> i would say yes, preacherswife
[22:32] <preacherswife> i don't want to spend needlessly and be disappointed
[22:32] <sin> preacherswife, it will be worth it.
[22:33] <preacherswife> do you mean the settings when i go to actually burn a dvd?
[22:33] <sin> you have to save the pictures as high quality
[22:33] <sin> the burning software doesnt change that
[22:33] <preacherswife> on the computer itself?
[22:33] <sin> when you use your digital camera, use the high quality setting when you take the pictures.
[22:33] <sin> the lower the quality, the yuckier they look
[22:34] <preacherswife> ohhh...i got'cha
[22:34] <sin> however, the higher quality you use, the bigger the file is
[22:34] <preacherswife> should i begin with dvdrw's
[22:34] <preacherswife> or dvdr's?
[22:34] <sin> so perhaps something middle to middle-high setting is the best, if you want good quality but reasonable sized files
[22:34] <sin> same thing for dvd's, though its pretty much a given on those.
[22:35] <preacherswife> until i learn what i am doing, i am thinking of dvd'rw's
[22:35] <preacherswife> that way if i mess up, i can erase the data
[22:36] <preacherswife> is memorex a decent brand of dvd's to play around with?
[22:36] <sin> i like memorex
[22:37] <preacherswife> i think it's pretty cheap too, huh?
[22:38] <sin> yes they are, preacherswife
[22:38] <preacherswife> well, i may give installing a dvd burner a go
[22:38] <sin> i highly suggest getting the ads from the sunday papers
[22:38] <sin> and watching for sales
[22:38] <preacherswife> if i mess up, i will blame ya'll. : )
[22:38] <mike_needs_help> lol preach
[22:38] <sin> cd's and dvd's are expensive
[22:38] <DSenette-TT> blame sin
[22:38] <preacherswife> yeah
[22:38] <sin> go for it
[22:38] <mike_needs_help> blame sin]
[22:38] <DSenette-TT> that way you can talk about it in church
[22:38] <mike_needs_help> lol
[22:38] <sin> everyone blames me
[22:38] <preacherswife> good point there
[22:38] <sin> especially preachers' wives
[22:38] <DSenette-TT> "sin ruined my computer"
[22:38] <preacherswife> that is us!
[22:39] <sin> 'sin ruins everything'
[22:39] <preacherswife> we can talk about you in sunday school tomorrow
[22:39] <sin> awesome
[22:39] <sin> tell everyone i said hi
[22:39] <sin>
[22:39] <preacherswife> in a few hours actually
[22:39] <preacherswife> sin is an odd name
[22:39] <sin> preacherswife, 'sin' in spanish means 'without'
[22:39] <DSenette-TT> though...wouldn't that make for a quandry if sin's advice actually helps?
[22:40] <sin> and so i used to be a math nerd
[22:40] <sin> sin is a function
[22:40] <DSenette-TT> without sin i wouldn't have been able to install this thing
[22:40] <preacherswife> didn't know that
[22:40] <sin> trig.
[22:40] <DSenette-TT> sine?
[22:40] <sin> yeah
[22:40] <preacherswife> i love learning things like that
[22:40] <sin> except its always written as sin
[22:40] <DSenette-TT> ...so...if you had a partner here...would they be cosin?
[22:40] <DSenette-TT> nyuck nyuck nyuck
[22:40] <preacherswife> cute
[22:40] <sin> so, preacherswife, while it usually holds true to form, my nick doesnt necessarily mean 'the original sin'
[22:40] <sin> lol DSenette-TT
[22:40] * sin smacks DSenette-TT
[22:41] <preacherswife> thanks for clearing that up
[22:41] <preacherswife> how long would this installation take me?
[22:41] <preacherswife> 2 hours?
[22:41] <mike_needs_help> not that long
[22:41] <sin> probably less than that preacherswife
[22:41] <mike_needs_help> lol DS
[22:41] <preacherswife> one hour and 59 minutes?
[22:41] <sin> even 'not knowing what youre doing', you can probably do it in half an hour to an hour or so
[22:41] <preacherswife> no kidding?
[22:41] <DSenette-TT> if i'm eating donuts at the time....it takes me 15 minutes to install an optical drive
[22:41] <sin> because youre going to need to turn everything off, unplug everything
[22:42] <DSenette-TT> if no donuts...8
[22:42] <sin> also, while youre getting your new drive, you might also want to get a can of air
[22:42] <sin> blow the gunk out of your computer while you have it open
[22:42] <preacherswife> i KNEW there was catch to this
[22:42] <preacherswife> turning it all off
[22:42] <sin> but make sure you dont spray the fans.
[22:42] <preacherswife> : )
[22:42] <sin> lol preacherswife
[22:42] <mike_needs_help> lol its easy to install a optical
[22:42] <mike_needs_help> takes me 10 mins
[22:42] <DSenette-TT> no no...spray the fans...just hold them from moving when you do
[22:42] <preacherswife> surely
[22:43] <preacherswife> i have two in mine
[22:43] <preacherswife> all this does sound challenging
[22:43] <sin> its not, preacherswife
[22:44] <preacherswife> will i mess up something, if i do it wrong?
[22:44] <sin> its hard to do it wrong, preacherswife
[22:45] <sin> im Nic, by the way.
[22:45] <DSenette-TT> probably not
[22:45] <preacherswife> i do so like your confidence in me
[22:45] <preacherswife> i did install xp myself!
[22:45] <DSenette-TT> generally the worst that happens when you "mess up" a drive install is that it doesn't work
[22:45] <preacherswife> for me, that was interesting!
[22:45] <sin> and if it doesnt work, preacherswife, you can always put it back the way it was
[22:45] <preacherswife> replaced 98 with xp
[22:46] <sin> until you have some help with doing it again.
[22:46] <sin> but you should be fine, really.
[22:46] <preacherswife> and call the right guy
[22:46] <preacherswife> well, i will let you nice people know what i chose to do
[22:46] <sin> good
[22:46] <sin> we'll be waiting
[22:46] <sin> so heres what you need to do
[22:46] <preacherswife> so glad i found a nice room with patient "pros" that don't mind helping dummies like me
[22:46] <DSenette-TT> there we go..google
[22:47] <DSenette-TT> http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/cdrom/index.html
[22:47] <sin> 1: check the paper for ads/sales
[22:47] <sin> 2: buy the drive and the canned air
[22:47] <preacherswife> canned air got it already
[22:47] <sin> 3: unplug everything
[22:47] <preacherswife> this product goes off sale tomorrow
[22:47] <sin> 4: open the computer
[22:47] <sin> 5: blow the gunk out
[22:47] <sin> 6: follow the instructions inside the box to install the new drive
[22:48] <preacherswife> you mean unplug all things from the back of the tower right?
[22:48] <sin> 7: plug everything back in after closing it up
[22:48] <sin> yes, unplug -everything-
[22:48] <preacherswife> frm the back?
[22:48] <sin> no cords/cables attached while youre doing this
[22:48] <preacherswife> or from the outlets?
[22:48] <sin> correct, everything gets unplugged from the computer itself.
[22:48] <preacherswife> got'cha
[22:48] <preacherswife> i am anxious to see what it plugs into when i take a peek inside
[22:49] <sin> heres a hint
[22:49] <sin> when you open the box
[22:49] <preacherswife> yeah...
[22:49] <sin> look at the wires that connect the CD drive
[22:49] <preacherswife> surely
[22:49] <sin> see what kind of connection they plug into
[22:49] <preacherswife> i will make notes
[22:49] <sin> the DVD drive will plug into the exact type of connection.
[22:49] <preacherswife> ohhh...
[22:49] <sin> you may end up plugging the dvd into the CD's connection, and plugging the CD into an outlet on the DVD wires
[22:50] <preacherswife> will there be a way to check it, if i don't have any dvd's?
[22:50] <sin> since you have XP, when you turn your computer back on, itll have popup balloons saying 'found new hardware', etc
[22:50] <preacherswife> and that is good?
[22:50] <sin> yes
[22:50] <preacherswife> bingo!
[22:50] <sin> that means its functioning
[22:51] <preacherswife> gosh, this does sound easy
[22:51] <DSenette-TT> also...dvd drives also read cd's
[22:51] <preacherswife> yes, that i do know
[22:51] <preacherswife> ohhh...
[22:51] <preacherswife> so there is a way
[22:51] <preacherswife> duh on me!
[22:51] <preacherswife> it's time for bed here...sorry
[22:51] <sin> good luck, preacherswife
[22:51] <DSenette-TT> http://www.build-your-own-computer-tips.co...-rom-drive.html <-- a guide with pictures
[22:51] <sin> im sure youll do fine
[22:52] <sin> there ya go, picture guide
[22:52] <preacherswife> let me write that down...hang on
[22:52] <sin> adam pasted that to me the other day, except it was for installing an internal wireless adapter
[22:52] <sin> helped immensely
[22:53] <preacherswife> got it
[22:53] <preacherswife> ya'll are the BEST
[22:53] <sin> preacherswife, heres the thing, im not really a 'hardware' person, but ive installed hard drives, ram, an internal wireless adapter, and cd/dvd drives
[22:53] <sin> the more you do, the more you learn
[22:53] <DSenette-TT> indeed
[22:53] <preacherswife> well, it may not get done until later in the week...
[22:53] <preacherswife> that i am learning
[22:53] <preacherswife> church stuff you know going on
[22:54] <preacherswife> take care now
[22:54] <sin> have confidence in yourself, thats the first step
[22:54] <DSenette-TT> the hardest parts to install in a computer are processors and well the whole motherboard
[22:54] <sin> goodnight
[22:54] <DSenette-TT> peace out
[22:54] <sin> we'll see you later
[22:54] <preacherswife> God bless you ALL!
[22:54] <sin> true, DSenette-TT, im not that 'advanced' yet
[22:54] <sin> bless you too preacherswife
[22:54] <sin> thanks for making me feel helpful today
[22:54] <preacherswife> i done good with xp...please don't confuse me with processors and etc...
[22:54] <DSenette-TT> hehehehe
[22:55] * Quits: preacherswife (JavaUser@privatehost-E05DFF2A.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) (Quit: preacherswife)
[22:55] <sin> i want to cry.
[22:55] <DSenette-TT> eh?
[22:55] <DSenette-TT> it's just a dvd drive
[22:55] <sin> i know
[22:55] <sin> but thats not it
[22:55] <DSenette-TT> something in your eye?
[22:55] <sin> i want to cry because i feel helpful.
[22:55] <sin> im never helpful.
[22:55] <sin> certainly not -that- helpful.
[22:56] <DSenette-TT> we know
[22:56] <DSenette-TT> hahahahahaha
[22:56] * sin smacks DSenette-TT
[22:56] <DSenette-TT> we've all got our moments in the su
[22:56] <DSenette-TT> n
[22:56] <sin> i feel sad that i helped someone.
[22:56] <sin> like im empty now
[22:56] <sin> like i gave them everything i had
[22:56] <DSenette-TT> hahahahahaha
[22:56] <sin> and now im afraid that something bad will happen
[22:56] <sin> and itll be my fault.
[22:57] <DSenette-TT> ....if someone breaks their whole computer installing an optical drive...i assure you it's their fault
[22:57] <sin> true
[22:57] <sin> but i really like her.
[22:57] <sin> she's nice.
[22:57] <DSenette-TT> hehe
[22:57] <sin> and id hate for something bad to happen.
[22:57] <DSenette-TT> if all else fails..she'll call her computer guy
[22:57] <sin> now mike needs help. thats someone i could give a shit about.
[22:57] <sin> i hate that guy
[22:57] <DSenette-TT> musceling in on your lady eh?
[22:58] <DSenette-TT> never mind
[22:58] <sin> nah, hes a jerk.
[22:58] <DSenette-TT> wrong guy
[22:58] <DSenette-TT> yeah mike's....different
[22:58] <sin> hes not happy about the help he receives
[22:58] <sin> hes rude
[22:58] <sin> he complains about everything
[22:58] <DSenette-TT> he'll get his
[22:58] <sin> and questions experts' advice
[22:59] <sin> theres a good reason he got banned the other day
[22:59] <sin> im pretty sure aaron did it
[22:59] <sin> and aaron never bans people.
[22:59] <DSenette-TT> man i need to start learning people's real names...adam? aaron?
[22:59] <sin> Aaron
[22:59] <sin> as in Aaron from microsoft
[22:59] <DSenette-TT> oohhh yeah that guy
[22:59] <sin> adam = friend. he doesnt come in here.
[23:00] <DSenette-TT> mike's a kid...he'll learn things as he get's older....he'll learn them the hard way...but the
[23:01] <sin> depends on if he ever pays attention to the lesson though.
[23:02] <sin> some people never do learn
[23:02] <DSenette-TT> hehe everyone learns something....just no assurances of when and how
[23:02] <sin> true
[23:02] <DSenette-TT> he'll get the snot kicked out of him at school or he'll get fired from a job...or he'll get a devorce
[23:02] <sin> lol
[23:03] <DSenette-TT> or something along his life
[23:03] <DSenette-TT> that's why i don't worry about tools